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RCTimer and DYS SN20a ESC versus KISS

I got the new RCTimer SN20a ESC in today. These are the new crop of ultralight and small ESC, using the latest MOSFET tech. It all started with Flyduino’s KISS ESC.

The first thing I did was desolder all the wires. Then gave it a quick inspection. Follow by some photographs of them sidebyside with the KISS 12A ESC v1 I have.

The KISS are supposely 12mm by 23mm. I measured with my digital calipers at 12.25mm by 23mm. While the SN20a measured at 11.94mm by 23.33mm.

So they are both roughly the same size. However, keep in mind that the latest KISS v1.1 have larger pads so they gain about 1mm in length. It’s nice to see that the SN20a ESC comes with larger pads by default.

The other pluses for the SN20a is that all the wires come presoldered and the ESC heatshrunk. And best of all, the 20A are less than $12 in qty of 3 or more!!!

Runs BLHeli with dampening and OneShot capabilities.

RCTimer_DYS_SN20a_versus_KISS_12a_size

RCTimer_DYS_SN20a_MOSFET_side

RCTimer_DYS_SN20a_MCU_side

And near identical in weight as well…
RCTimer_DYS_SN20a_ESC_weight_no_wires

KISS_12a_weight_no_wires

And thanks to Zachary, he pointed me to the pinout someone shared on RCGroups.

DYS_RCTimer_SN20a_pinout

Discussion Thread:
RCGroups thread: RCTimer / DYS Mini SN20a esc
The above link also list other places to buy. Copied below for your convenience.

Buying options:

USA
RcTimer USA Warehouse : http://www.uavobjects.com/product/rc…monk-firmware/

Canada
Armattan (blheli pre-flashed) http://www.armattanminis.ca/armattan-20a-opto-esc/

Australia
http://buzzhobbies.com.au/index.php?…30&search=sn20
pre-flashed with blheli +damped light

China
BangGood : Rctimer OPTO mini 20A Brushless ESC SimonK 2-4S for RC Multicopter
RcTimer : http://www.rctimer.com/product-1280.html
DYS : http://www.goodluckbuy.com/dys-sn20a…ticopters.html

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Mini CC3D board

I have a CC3D board that I hope to build a second ZMR250 with. So I can play with OpenPilot and compare to the Acro Naze 32 flight controller board running CleanFlight. I always like small, lightweight components on my mini and micro quadcopter builds. So it’s with great interest to see the mini CC3D Atom board.

 

BangGood_mini_CC3D_SKU215141-18

I like that it comes with the protective casing. And you can choose between straight pins or right angle pins soldered on for you. Plus it also comes with cables, double-sided tape, a isolated dampening platform. As well as an Antenna mount and instructional flyer helping you to hook up a Satellite RX.

Here is a photo I took of it side by side with the AfroMini Naze board. (After I remove the case of course.)

CC3D_Atom_versus_AfroMini

Weight of the FC without the protective case that it came in.
CC3D_atom_flight_controller_weight_bare_nocase

Categories: MultiRotor, Quadcopters
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Nano QX Paper Canopy

Thanks to Darsh, the original creator of this 3D model. I created a few color variation of the Nano QX paper canopy.

More info and original content in this RC Groups thread by Darsh.

darsh_nano_qx_paper_canopy_white_red_wip

darsh_nano_qx_paper_canopy_white_red_rear

darsh_nano_qx_paper_canopy_white_red_side

darsh_nano_qx_paper_canopy_white_red_front_fnqx

Each of the photo below links to the PDF file you can download and print. Good luck and have fun.

White and Red Nano QX Paper craft canopy

Blacks and Yellow Nano QX Paper craft canopy

Red Nano QX Paper craft canopy

Yellow and Blue Nano QX Paper Craft Canopy

Categories: MultiRotor
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Quick HiSky HCP100 LiPo Comparsion

I need more lipo and wanted to try something lighter weight to see how the HCP100S will do. The Hobby King Nano-Tech 330mAh made for the Trex 150 touts 45-90c. Let’s see how it matches up to the HiSky HCP100S stock 450mAh 25c pack.

I have two of the HiSky 450mAh and three of the Nano-Tech 330mAh.

hisky_hcp100s_lipo_versus_hobbyking_330mah_45c_trex_150_lipo

Click to view the larger graph…

HiSky_HCP100S_LiPo_Discharge_curve

I was only able to pull 2A from my iCharger 106B+. And I estimated that the HCP100S pulls about 2.8A or so. But the graph above gives us a good basis for comparision.

The NanoTech claims 40-90C. And it does gives an ok discharge the first minute or so. The HiSky 25c does keep the voltage up longer.

I get about 6mins with the 330mAh pack. And about roughly 8mins with the HiSky 450mAh.

The HiSky’s ability to maintain a higher voltage through the flight makes up for the fact that it’s a heavier pack. My skill level doesn’t allow me to feel the weight on the HCP100S. The brushless motor sill makes it super power and peppy to me. And the weight makes it feel more stable in the breeze.

But the Nano-Tech are about half the cost, factoring HobbyKing shipping. And 5-6mins is a good amount of time for flying. You just need to install a balance plug to use the Trex 150 compatible lipo.

Just thought I’d share.

Categories: HCP100S, Helicopter, Test
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Hubsan X4 Quad Plus updates

At CES 2015, Hubsan had a good presence and brought out their new line up. Many of us are familiar with the original Hubsan X4 and it’s rebrands such as the Traxxas QR-1…as well as the many, many clones that tries to mimic the form and function of the first Hubsan X4. That does say something about Hubsan’s design and engineering prowess.

First up, the regular Hubsan X4 with LED gets an update. The H107L is now known as the H107P aka Hubsan X4 Plus.
x4_107P_hacksmods

Next up, the Hubsan X4 (H107C) with camera is now known as the H107C+, aka Hubsan X4 Camera Plus. The camera records at 720P and the quad itself gets an altitude mode. This should allow for smooth flights, making it easier to maintain the same altitude level without too much throttle management. Smooth flights at the same altitude level regardless of speed or entering and exit turns are signs of a proficient pilot.
Hubsan X4 H107C+ X4 Cam Plus product photo

Hubsan X4 H107C+ X4 Cam Plus real picture

Here’s a photo of the bottom. You can see where the micro SD card resides. You can also see that Hubsan uses more screws to secure that part of the X4 that used to pop apart during crashes. These new micro quads do feel very solid in the hand.
Hubsan_H107C+_X4_Cam_Plus_bottom

Then there’s the Hubsan X4 (H107D) FPV. It gets the plus designation and now known as the H107D+, aka Hubsan X4 FPV Plus. From the product manual, it appears they are still keeping the old H107D in the lineup with the H107D+. The H107D+ maintain the same 720P recording resolution. It’s unknown if the quality is better or not. It also get the altitude mode upgrade. This is definitely a welcome feature for FPV beginners.
X4_107D+_hacksmods

And a couple of images from the CES show…

Hubsan_H107D+_FPV_X4_Plus_angle_view

Hubsan_H107D+_FPV_X4_Plus

Finally, the new additions to the X4 family. Both are much bigger than the size of the X4.

The H109 aka Hubsan X4 Brushless, is a quad that was leaked a year ago and many have been awaiting with bated breath. It’s Hubsan’s first brushless quad. The size reminds me more of a Blade 200QX. And it keeps the Hubsan styling, with lights on each of the motor pods. Along with the X4 Brushless, Hubsan introduced a new, larger transmitter to help tame that brushless power. Hopefully, the protocols are backwards compatible and will allow flying the smaller X4. Many of us Devo 7e users know that a X4 flies soooo much better with a good TX.

Besides the design aesthetices, the brushless power plant obviously makes the H109 attractive. What really get me interested though is the claim of a 20min flight time.
H109_brushless_hacksmods

And finally, topping up the line up is the Hubsan’s DJI Phantom Vision+ competitor. The H109S, aka Hubsan X4 Pro. It touts a 1080P HD camera, GPS and automatic return to home. Even has a parachute in case something goes very wrong up in the air. The video at the bottom that Hubsan was running at their CES booth will give more highlights of the feature the H109S has.
H109S_hacksmods

It definitely looks like a badass and FPV ready. 3axis gyro stablization gimbal. And an Android power TX to control to round out the package. Very pro looking.
x4_109S_poster__hacksmods

And I also saw a Hubsan FPV goggle on display. However, I don’t see it mentioned in their brochure. So I would be curious as to how they compare to Fatshark or SkyZone goggles.
Hubsan_FPV_goggle

Categories: Hubsan, Uncategorized
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HiSky HCP100S BLHeli Brushless ESC

Pivotal moment for those of us who loves the opensource BLHeli brushless firmware from Steffen. HiSky’s new HCP100S double brushless micro CP helicopter comes with BLHeli firmware already flashed onboard. Not only that, the programming pads are big and accessible.

BLHeli toolstick connection points…
HCP100S_ESC_BLHeli_Flashing_Points

Main ESC was flashed with BLHeli 12.1. Governor modes are disabled. But Programming by TX is left enabled. Therefore, you should be able to use your transmitter sticks to enable/disable some of the features. Read the BLHeli manual under section for Beeps – Entering programming mode. The manual can be founded in the /manual folder after you download and unzip the BLHeli Suite software

(Another good read… DoubleCH explaination of governor modes)

The best method for updating BLHeli settings and flashing new firmware is by using a SilLabs based flashing stick in combination with the BLHeliSuite software you see below:

HCP100S_MAIN

Tail ESC was flashed with BLHeli version 10.4

HCP100S_TAIL

And for you HCP100, v922, FBL100 and even mCPX owners. Here’s how it can look like if you repurpose the HCP100S dual brushless ESC for your heli…
HiSky_dual_brushless_ESC_on_HCP100_3in1_mCPX_conversion

HiSky_HCP100S_ESC_weight_BLHeli_support

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Official SunnySky x2204s 2300kv versus BangGood’s

I purchase some nicely priced SunnySky x2204s 2300kv from BangGood for < $16.

Here’s a photo comparison against the x2204s purchased from SunnySky’s official US distributor: BuddyRC.com

I see that the one from BuddyRC uses thicker motor wires. And are generally neater wound versus the one from BangGood. The BangGood one has a thicker bell cross section, so you can’t see the magnets like you could with the original from BuddyRC. It also seem to use more glue to keep the magnets in place. I am not sure if this is in response to reports of magnets coming loose…especially those who are running these motors on 4s lipo.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_windings_top_down_view

The BuddyRC motor has a slight sheen to it. With crisp lines and a reflective, copper/light gold logo. While the BangGood motor has the SunnySky logo in a matte white, with a slightly different font. The motor bell is painted a more matte black. And the line noted in the picture below wasn’t as refine.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_logo_difference

I also noticed that the BangGood motor has a shorter threaded motor shaft. This is interesting because SunnySky x2204s motors are known to already have a slightly shorter shaft than comparable motors. i.e. Cobra 2204.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_threaded_shaft_height_difference

At the bottom of the motors, the BangGood version has very obvious concentric rings.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_baseplate

Another obvious change between the motors is the use of a metal washer in the BangGood motor. Compared to the plastic one.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_plastic_brass_washer_difference

Another top view of the motor windings, looking into the stator/magnets.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_top_view

And the same thing from the bottom of the motor.

comparision_sunnysky_x2204s_buddyrc_vs_banggood_bottom_windings

 

At this point, I do not know if the SunnySky x2204s motors from BangGood is a knock off or just the latest production run. The only way to tell is getting official word from a SunnySky representative. Or grabbing the latest copy from their official US distributor: BuddyRC

In either case…my own opinion is the older SunnySky has a more premium look to them than the one from BangGood. On that merit alone, I would consider some of the other competing 2204 2300kv motors at the moment.

I will be putting these BangGood motors on Fyathyrio’s test stand to see how they compare. So stay tune for that.

Categories: New Gear, Quadcopters
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WK-Devo-S-MOD Module for Devo 7e

For those who attempted the Devo 7e range mod and did not succeed. You can purchase one of the upgrade module made for the Devo 8 and 12 to get your Devo 7e up and running again. With full range. :)

BangGood still carries it for < $15.

Here’s a picture of it installed. I removed the original and installed it in it’s place.

devo7e_8s_upgrade_module_installed_picture

(updated 2014-10-22):
For those who needs a visual guide on how to wire up the WK-DEVO-S-MOD Upgrade Module…
WK-DEVO-S-MOD_MODULE_Devo7e_installation_guide

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Devo 7e Swivel Antenna Mod

I just added a swivel antenna to the Devo 7e’s stock antenna tube. I cut and tapered the stock tube. Then used a coax to extend the connector, so I can mount at the new location.

The ability to adjust the position of the antenna will optimize the RF radiation pattern. Ensuring you have a good signal to your model.

Here is a good, beginner’s video on the topic of Antenna:

Combine this with the Devo 7e range mod. Or you can buy and install the Walkera Devo S upgrade module to turn the Devo 7e into a full range radio transmitter. This is the same module you would need in case you attempted the range mod and failed.

I used two additional items that is pretty inexpensive and can be purchased from BangGood as well.

A 15cm U.FL/IPX to RP-SMA extension ~$1.50

And the standard 2.4GHz RP-SMA antenna ~$3

devo_7e_swivel_antenna_mod_optimized_range_sideview

devo_7e_swivel_antenna_mod_optimized_range

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AlienWii Flight Controllers Lands

Check out the AlienWii FC from Lance.

They run MultiWii and has MOSFET that can handle direct driving 8.5mm brushed motors without blowing up.

Here are pictures of the latest shipping AlienWii boards:
AlienWii32u4-Back

AlienWii32u4

Here’s a shot with the LemonRX Satellite receiver installed. Plug and play.
Brushed_MicroWii_AlienQuad_LemonRX_Sat_installed

You can get them and the awesome Chaoli motors from Micro Motor Warehouse.

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